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[Discuss] SysVinit vs. systemd
- Subject: [Discuss] SysVinit vs. systemd
- From: dsr at randomstring.org (Dan Ritter)
- Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:45:32 -0400
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:33:47PM -0400, Michael Tiernan wrote: > Okay everyone. All this bitching is fun and at times entertaining but > it's produced little more than noise. > > For those who agree that systemd is the devil's spawn how do we proceed > to change things? For Debian stable releases prior to Jessie, this isn't a problem. Experimenting with a current Jessie release: # apt-get install sysv-rc sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils edit /etc/udev/udev.conf to log at err or higher # update-initramfs -k all -u and reboot. You'll come up without systemd. My test VM boots in 1.33 seconds with systemd, 32.18 with sysvinit, and 1.37s with sysvinit after the udev change. Right, now that that's settled: - if you want to add service supervision on certain things, good candidates are runit, daemontools, and supervisord - if you want to move away from sysvinit but keep the style of handling it, openrc isn't bad -dsr- -
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