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[Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router
- Subject: [Discuss] iGuardian "enterprise-grade" home router
- From: tmetro+blu at gmail.com (Tom Metro)
- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:28:44 -0400
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Richard Pieri wrote: > Ubiquiti's...OS is proprietary... It's a Debian fork, 2-steps removed. (Fork of a fork.) Similarly iGuardian is packaging OpenWRT, which may or may not qualify as a fork. It might in the sense that they probably bundle binary blobs to support their hardware, which you are stuck with. Both provide root shell access without going through any hoops. With either one, adding 3rd party packages should be just a matter of installing them via apt-get or optware package managers. > and I have no idea how stable it would be after coercing it > to do something unsupported. I don't really have any information as to how well either vendor supports their platform if you start monkeying with the software stack. iGuardian in their FAQ seems to imply they would, but lets be real, they're a startup with limited resources, so if you complained something wasn't working, their first response is going to be to reset the device back to the factory software. I'd like to find an online community of EdgeRouter users to learn more about what real world problems and limitations those users run into. The only end-user info I've seen so far has been from a small number of product reviews. > Ubiquiti's hardware is pretty open... I wouldn't consider either to meet the definition of open hardware. To be open hardware you need to share the design (schematics), and use components that don't require binary blobs, and have all the chip specifications published openly so anyone can create drivers. The Raspberry Pi isn't open hardware, for example, though on the spectrum between open and closed, its closer to the open side. -Tom -- Tom Metro The Perl Shop, Newton, MA, USA "Predictable On-demand Perl Consulting." http://www.theperlshop.com/
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