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[Discuss] Local ISP Recommendations?
- Subject: [Discuss] Local ISP Recommendations?
- From: me at mattgillen.net (Matthew Gillen)
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:24:30 -0500
- In-reply-to: <56A1C016.2060700@thekramers.net>
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On 01/22/2016 12:37 AM, David Kramer wrote: > I would love to get your opinions (or even better, facts) on how > dangerous it would be to run a web and mail server on a dynamic IP. I > think Matt was asking about that too. I've been doing this for over 10 years with different providers. Comcast was fine for the first 3 or 4 years. Over that time my IP address changed a handful of times. Using a static DNS to point to my DHCP address wasn't too bad. I would have an email outage of a few hours plus however long it took me to realize I needed to fix the DNS entry. Then Comcast started randomly adding port blocks to residential services (25 and 80 were what I cared about). Then I had to use the mailhop service for email, and tried a couple different avenues, including letting my hosting provider provide a backup mail relay. That turned out to just vastly increase the amount of spam I got, but it wasn't your normal spam: it was people's auto-replies to spam. You normally don't see that since they just send it back to the source, and normally the spam source is not your actual mail server. Problem is, these hosting providers must use the same outgoing mail server for a bunch of domains, some of which were sending spam with my domain as the 'from'. Anyway, Comcast started being really painful to deal with, and just generally overzelous in policing their network in draconian ways. Got sick of them really fast after that. I gave up on port 80 hosting during this phase, migrated it to a web hosting service. Switched to FIOS as soon as they offered service, and have been happy ever since. Haven't needed MailHop because they don't unnecessarily block incoming ports. You MUST use their server as a relay for outgoing mail (this was true for comcast as well), but that is ok as long as you make sure their server is in your SPF DNS entry (so that when outside people see mail from your domain coming from Vz's server, they don't assume that it is spam). Again, IP address changes once a year or so (I leave this server on all the time). I utilize a dynamic DNS system too (one that automatically updates itself). This is in case I'm out of town and a power outage or something makes my IP change, I can still get in remotely via the dynamic dns name, then find out the new ip I need to update the static DNS with. As far as the danger of other people getting your email, there isn't much. First, there is a relatively small window for this (i.e. until you update your DNS entry and it propogates). Some other residential customer will get your IP, and they have to be running a mail server (uncommon). Moreover, they have to be running a mail server that is configured to accept mail for your domain (couldn't happen except by intentional malice). Since one of the prerequisites implies malice (accepting mail for your domain), and another would require collusion with the ISP (to hand the bad guy your old IP address, since the chance of that happening randomly is astronomical)... well lets just say if your ISP is colluding with bad guys you're already screwed and you probably have bigger problems than temporary email redirection. HTH, Matt
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