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- Subject: [Discuss] Running a mail server, or not
- From: jabr at blu.org (John Abreau)
- Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 13:35:09 -0400
- In-reply-to: <d4a322f0-4f1f-bcc6-cfba-abe853b771fa@horne.net>
- References: <3387a575-3c13-0e54-a485-6c2dabffcda0@thekramers.net> <20180624033526.GC14373@bladeshadow.org> <d4a322f0-4f1f-bcc6-cfba-abe853b771fa@horne.net>
One point that often gets overlooked in discussions of cryptography is that if you only encrypt the few things that must be kept secret, you make it a lot easier for nefarious miscreants to focus their efforts on your secrets. Whereas if you routinely encrypt everything, then those miscreants have to work a hell of a lot harder decrypting a lot of worthless crap in hopes of eventually uncovering your secrets. On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Bill Horne <bill at horne.net> wrote: > On 6/23/2018 11:35 PM, Derek Martin wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 04:26:14AM -0400, David Kramer wrote: >> >>> My main motivations for running my own mail server is that I rely >>> heavily on procmail rules to deliver mail to the right folders, and >>> I am also not crazy about third parties scanning and storing all my >>> mail, though that's negotiable. >>> >> I'm in pretty much this situation, but I've kind of given up on the >> idea that no one should be able to read my e-mail. The fact is your >> e-mail is already being consumed by the great government surveillance >> machine regardless, since both incoming and outgoing mail has to >> traverse multiple ISP backbones (excepting perhaps the case where all >> your recipients are on your own server), and only crazy people like me >> were ever willing to put up with the hastle of encrypting all their >> mail, so... it's a total loss, pretty much. >> > > No matter how effective the NSA and the deep state and the man behind the > curtain and J. Edgar's ghosts have been at weakening encryption algorithms, > it's still a good idea to use end-to-end encryption on any emails that you > want to keep private. In the first place, most of the people you want to > prevent reading you emails don't have access to any decryption capability, > and in the second, even law-enforcement agencies will be forced to get a a > warrant (admittedly an easy task) or poison any evidence they gather. Even > if you assume that the AES standard has custom-made holes in it for the use > of government(s), the "equities" issue is as good a defense as any lawyer: > if Uncle Sam introduces decrypted messages as evidence in a trial, then it > has ipso facto admitted that it _can_ decrypt them, and thus will have > compromised an invaluable source of information and offended some campaign > contributors who would like that not to be true. > > No matter what, end-to-end encryption buys you time: you can't prevent the > powers-that-be from obtaining envelope data, but there are ways around that > problem, too. > > Bill > > -- > Bill Horne > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix Email jabr at blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0x920063C6 PGP-Key-Fingerprint A5AD 6BE1 FEFE 8E4F 5C23 C2D0 E885 E17C 9200 63C6
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