[Discuss] printer issue

[gaf.linux at gmail.com (Jerry Feldman)]

IMHO the printer should be on the LAN. Connecting it to the computer means
that the computer needs to be running for the printer to be accessible to
other systems.

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On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 8:38 PM <epp at null.net> wrote:

> Another issue with the Asus - when it was functioning as a standard
> router, was that it would not enable IPv6. The only way it could be used
> for both IPv4 and 6, was to configure it as an AP. There are settings in
> its firmware to enable IPv6 when used as a standard router, but none of
> the settings worked.
>
> Is it the general opinion that a printer should be directly connected to
> the computer, rather than via Ethernet/WiFi?
>
>
> On 6/24/22 20:16, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> > The issue you raise is privacy. If you use the isp provided gateway or
> your
> > own replacement, devices will get up addresses from that gateway's nat.
> If
> > you get a router, and set it up to manage your lan, you are insulating
> your
> > devices from the network. Of course, if you want a device accessible from
> > the outside, that is a different story.
> >
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> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 7:51 PM <epp at null.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Comcast will allow a customer to use a personally-owned modem, if this
> >> is what you're referring to. They have a list online of the approved
> >> modems, that I presume were tested to ensure they work.
> >>
> >> I have an Asus router that is configured as an access point, which I
> >> have used in the past. As an AP, the devices on the internal network
> >> would pull IP's from the Comcast gateway, but are physically/WiFi
> >> connected to the AP. A negative to this, is that (unlike the Comcast
> >> gateway) the router/AP will not allow the same SSID to be used for both
> >> 2.4 and 5.0 GHz WiFI.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/24/22 19:04, John Abreau wrote:
> >>> I generally recommend minimizing the amount of trust you give to your
> >>> ISP. I've switched between different ISPs over the years, and if the
> >>> ISP insists on providing its own wifi router, I would connect only one
> >>> device to that router: my own personal wifi router.
> >>>
> >>> My internal home network is always under my personal administrative
> >>> control, and I only use the ISP to transport bits back and forth
> >>> between my private network and the public Internet.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM <epp at null.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      My printer is an OfficeJet Pro 8210 and it will prompt to download
> >> and
> >>>      install a software upgrade, if available, when it's connected to
> the
> >>>      network. It has upgraded the software once, since I've had it. I
> >>>      do not
> >>>      know how often it checks HP for updates.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      On 6/24/22 15:54, Ben Kallus wrote:
> >>>      > It's worth noting the security risks that come with network
> >>>      printers.
> >>>      > Their firmwares is not often updated, and has been shown to be
> >>>      > insecure time and time again.^1 You may be better off connecting
> >>>      it to
> >>>      > a computer you trust, then exposing it as a network printer
> through
> >>>      > that computer. The photosmart D110 is the printer I had as a
> >>>      kid, and
> >>>      > I don't think it's gotten an update in a very long time.
> >>>      >
> >>>      > [1]:
> >>>
> >>
> https://techventures.columbia.edu/news-and-events/latest-news/symbiote-technology-created-ang-cui-and-salvatore-stolfo-named-one
> >>>      >
> >>>      >> On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:58 PM, epp at null.net wrote:
> >>>      >>
> >>>      >> ?On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote:
> >>>      >>
> >>>      >>> running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> photosmart d110.
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> new modem/router/wifi.  i logged into xfinity's device and
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> /etc/hosts:
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain localhost
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> 127.0.0.1       alphacent.localdomain  alphacent
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> 10.0.0.1         xfinity.localdomain xfinity
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> 10.0.0.63        aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> 10.0.0.62        d110.localdomain d110
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> 10.0.0.61        unknown
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> 10.0.0.60        alphacent.localdomain alphacent
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> 50.87.218.82     bluedan
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> all is well, except for the printer.  i went through the
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device --
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> un-pingable.
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>    moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>    Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24
> 11:14
> >> EDT
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>    Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62)
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>    Host is up (0.10s latency).
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>    All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>    in ignored states.  Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>    (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach)
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>    Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> what's going on?
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>>
> >>>      >>> ole dan
> >>>      >>
> >>>      >> I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the
> >>>      speed
> >>>      >> increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the
> >>>      previous and
> >>>      >> is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently
> >>>      retained
> >>>      >> its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the
> >> new
> >>>      >> gateway, it just worked.
> >>>      >>
> >>>      >> If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is
> already
> >>>      >> installed, as superuser/root, running:
> >>>      >>
> >>>      >> hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62
> >>>      >>
> >>>      >> in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it.
> >>>
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