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- Subject: [Discuss] Future of X11 (was Trying to connect to internet in Debian)
- From: richard.pieri at gmail.com (Rich Pieri)
- Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2026 11:58:20 -0500
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 07:06:48 -0800 Kent Borg <kentborg at borg.org> wrote: > My understanding is Wayland is the alternative that is taking over > the world, and it seems to exist to make GPUs happier and explicitly > is opposed to running over a network. > > Correct? Kind of but not exactly. To oversimplify, X11 is a sophisticated network communications protocol with a display server grafted to it. Wayland is a display server without the network protocol, using IPC instead, ostensibly making it leaner, faster, and more secure. In practice, well, Jordan Sissel already wrote that essay: https://www.semicomplete.com/blog/xdotool-and-exploring-wayland-fragmentation/ which for me was quite helpful finding a few missing links in my KDE on Wayland experience. One is kdotool which does things wmctrl does for me with X11. The other is a KWin script which handles most of my window positioning needs. I only more recently learned of waypipe which I mentioned in my reply to Derek. -- \m/ (--) \m/
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