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But now they are back, albeit w/o the low end cards they initially had. It seems demand forced them to reconsider their decision. I've heard many good things about their products, and relatively few bad ones. A 3ware card is the only IDE RAID controller I'd consider. The prices are still reasonable for what you get, but mostly out of my (consumer) range. Drew At 02:07 PM 2/25/2002 -0500, Randall Hofland wrote: >I suppose one thing to also ask is whether or not RAID ought to be considered, >especially on a SCSI bus. The current IDE RAID options are sparse at >best(unfortunately)given >the 3Ware pullout, and SCSI RAID is still a better choice. > > >[Jerry Feldman: Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:24:58AM -0500] > >> SCSI vs. EIDE. > >> JABR mentiuoned that it is best to use SCSI if one has a SCSI controller. >However, I remember > >> seeing recently that IDE (or EIDE) today will give you just as good > performance. > > > > >I don't want to bash IDE and the fact that they are a good deal for > >the normal desktop.. but to say that they will give you performance > >even competitive with scsi is not my experience at all. > > > >typical scsi throughput is 35MB/s.. cheetah's will do 40.. typicaly > >udma/100 IDE performance (if you've got a chipset driver to support > >DMA at that rate, which depends on your controller under linux) is > >25.. I think the best I've come across is 30.. > > > >scsi seek times are typically much faster too.. western digital's ide > >caviar drives (ata/100) are 8.9ms and their corresponding 7200-spin > >scsi drives are 6.9.. that's a 25% difference and in a seek-intensive > >space like DB's you see that bigtime. > > > >> > >> Today, IDE drives are still significantly less expensive than SCSI: > >> eg. A 7200RPM 100GB EIDE drive is about $175, and the largest SCSI I > could >find is 73.4GB > >> (10,000RPM) for about $465. > > > >yep.. $/MB is heavy in favor of IDE.. however, lots of times spindles > >are just as impt as total MBs.. so you end up buying a fair number of > >smaller drives instead of a single big one.. IDE is still cheaper, but > >on the smaller drives the differential is a lot less and therefore > >going cheap is less tempting.. > > > >> For a commercial server, I would certainly go SCSI (or possibly > firewire...). >But for a personal > >> system or a home based or even a lightly loaded commercial server, IDE is >much more > >> economical. > > > >yep. > > > >if your limiting factor is network - go ide.. but if parallel load is > >your big issue - you'll do a lot more a lot faster with scsi. > > > >-P > >_______________________________________________ > >Discuss mailing list > >Discuss at blu.org > >http://www.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Internet Access by FASTdial.NET at $9.95/mo 56K + DSL In the NorthEast >Check out URL http://www.fastdial.net/ or e-mail info at fastdial.net >_______________________________________________ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss at blu.org >http://www.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Drew Taylor JA[P|m_p|SQL]H http://www.drewtaylor.com/ Just Another Perl|mod_perl|SQL Hacker mailto:drew at drewtaylor.com *** God bless America! ***
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