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On Jan 23, 2008 6:42 PM, Scott Ehrlich <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:30:42 -0500 > > "Matt Shields" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> I understand Comcast's decision, because they want to stop the flood > >> of spam coming from home networks. But for someone like myself which > >> has valid servers on the internet and a valid reason for allowing > >> outbound connecting to port 25, and I control what comes in and out of > >> them, then I am responsible for stopping spam or my upstream provider > >> will shut me off. If Comcast is going to require my customer's use > >> Comcast's outbound smtp servers, then that doesn't help me control > >> what type of customers are on my servers. In fact it means I can't > >> use Domain Keys or SPF for my customers. > > > > I certainly don't like them blocking port 25, but they are not > > concerned with those of us who have the skills and desire to set up an > > MTA that does not relay. The problem is the vast majority of people who > > don't have a clue. > > -- > > -- > > Jerry Feldman <[hidden email]> > > Boston Linux and Unix > > PGP key id: 537C5846 > > PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 > > > > Someone please humor me - I got hooked up to Comcast's residential > Internet service 8 years ago and lost my terms of service agreement. If > someone here actually has a copy of what you signed to agree to abide by, > I'd like to see what their ToS actually says with respect to this whole > discussion of servers, blocked ports, etc. > > It would also be interesting to see if the wording is the same for > everyoone who can track down their ToS, or if it differs over time (ToS > from 10 years ago may be different from 5 years ago to 2 years ago to 2 > weeks ago), or has it remained consistent? > > If some people are talking about unfair, lawsuits, etc, do the ToS say, > upfront "We, Comcast, can and may do this and that; you, customer, cannot > do this and that" and you signed in agreement? If so, let's see where > the specifics/differences are. If they say they can scan and/or block > ports at any time, you agreed to it. If they say you may not run any > servers - doing so violates your service and they can disconnect you, you > agreed to it. > > What are the specifics that you signed up for? > > For that matter, how do RCN and FIOS residential also compare? > > Thanks. > > Scott >
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