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rhel 6 fustrations...

A couple things I found with RHEL6:

Security is no longer an option at boot time, at
least in some cases.   selinux for example.  This lack
of choice is, in Microsoft parlance, a "feature".

Startup mechanism is, slowly but surely departing from
the /etc/.init.d/* (sequential and simple) mechanism into
the "upstart" paradigm.   Most of the old ways to do things
(chkconfig) are still there, for now. 

This is the root of most confusion, and frankly, problems
for people like me who load "servers" all day.  

For now, unlike Debian and Ubuntu, old tools and mechanism
are still supported.  For example, in Ubuntu, there is no
longer really a concept of "runlevel".

This is (to me) a fundamental change in worldview.

Since most administration utilities are tightly linked 
to "startup and shutdown" mechanisms, it goes.

I'm still wrapping my mind around it.  

Fedora users would have been seeing this all along.

Jim Gasek

--- gaf-mNDKBlG2WHs at wrote:

From: Jerry Feldman <gaf-mNDKBlG2WHs at>
To: discuss-mNDKBlG2WHs at
Subject: Re: rhel 6 fustrations...
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:16:38 -0500

On 12/01/2010 04:58 PM, Stephen Adler wrote:
> blu,
> I'm not sure how many of you are running rhel6, but I just upgraded my 
> system at work to find out that there seems to be a lot of the old 
> 'system-config-xxxxx' tools missing. The one which is really bugging me 
> is the lack of system-config-samba. Does anyone know about why this tool 
> would be missing?
I've found that sometimes you have to specifically install them.
Try 'yum install system-config-samba'

Jerry Feldman <gaf-mNDKBlG2WHs at>
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