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[Discuss] Good and Bad Crypto

Richard Pieri <richard.pieri at> writes:
> The world doesn't trust OpenSSL because it's open source. The world
> trusts OpenSSL because the cryptographic module has a FIPS 140-2 
> certificate. That certificate happens to be the same level certificate
> that Microsoft has for their cryptographic module. The testing
> standards are the same. The testing rules are the same. The testing
> procedures are the same. The certification and assurance levels are
> the same. Are the two modules equally trustworthy? Yes, they are,
> because they both passed the same certification process.

Which part of the world using OpenSSL actually passes 1 as "ONOFF" to

I would have thought the world doesn't trust OpenSSL much at all at this
exact moment, though perhaps it trusts that one module, maybe, well
except the openbsd people not so much:

and this guy seems to have a similar burr under his saddle:

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