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[Discuss] SysVinit vs. systemd
- Subject: [Discuss] SysVinit vs. systemd
- From: bill.n1vux at gmail.com (Bill Ricker)
- Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:30:57 -0400
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Bill Bogstad <bogstad at pobox.com> wrote: > a trend > away from debugging problems and towards just doing reinstalls/restarts. I > think the rise of virtualization (particularly in the cloud) has > driven this. As the > tools make it easier and easier to spin up a new VM, why bother to figure out > what caused the old one to fail, just reinitalize a new one and keep going. With virtualization (and multi-instance scale-out), it's not a disjunction: you can do BOTH (as someone pointed out up-thread). If you autostart a replacement instance (or just shift load to a N/N+m survivor) and keep the failed offline, you can debug at leisure while continuing/restoring service. [ how much debugging you can do off-line with it cut off from other tiers is a separate question, but you can at least collect 'forensics' that will be destroyed at re-start. ] -- Bill Ricker bill.n1vux at gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux
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