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- From: daniel at syntheticblue.com (Daniel M Gessel)
- Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:11:09 -0400
- In-reply-to: <20240801214606.5bebc46a.Richard.Pieri@gmail.com>
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Firewalls seem like an ideal solution: a trusted network inside an effective firewall is free from the (not insignificant) overhead of security. But firewalls aren't completely effective and are only one tool that we all use on a daily basis. On 2024-08-01 21:46, Rich Pieri wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 16:37:47 -0700 > Kent Borg <kentborg at borg.org> wrote: > >> And all of that was built on the unquestioned assumption that >> firewalls are how we keep our computing safe. > I think you're putting the cart before the horse. > > Because we didn't have firewalls in the 1980s. The concept existed and > probably a few organizations had very basic (by contemporary standards) > firewalls to isolate things. But generally? Those 50K ARPANET nodes? > Almost all could connect directly to each other. > > We didn't build an infrastructure that expected firewalls to protect > it. We built firewalls to protect the infrastructure that originally > didn't need protecting. >
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