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[Discuss] Port Scanning
- Subject: [Discuss] Port Scanning
- From: dsr at randomstring.org (Dan Ritter)
- Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:35:22 -0400
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Daniel M Gessel wrote: > Firewalls seem like an ideal solution: a trusted network inside an effective > firewall is free from the (not insignificant) overhead of security. > > But firewalls aren't completely effective and are only one tool that we all > use on a daily basis. The biggest problem with firewalls is what they lack, rather than what they have. They aren't, generally, integrated with an authentication system. They are sometimes integrated with a protocol verification system, but not often, because that's much harder to get right and keep working. So the usual workaround is to add a VPN, where strongly authenticated machines can become part of the inside rather than the outside. This doesn't actually pass any authentication information to the inside services, so complicated work-arounds exist. The second biggest problem is that we started using a firewall-evading technology to invite other people to run code on our machines -- web browsers. -dsr-
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