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[Discuss] Debian officially forked over systemd
- Subject: [Discuss] Debian officially forked over systemd
- From: invalid at pizzashack.org (Derek Martin)
- Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 12:13:11 -0600
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On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 08:31:10AM -0800, Rich Braun wrote: > aren't there a few tad-more-important things to worry about than > preserving a few dozen crufty startup scripts dating back to the > 1990s? This is part of the problem--it seems a lot of people have framed this as "antiquated SysVInit scripts" vs. "bloated systemd." I need be neither. Systemd need not be a small number of large, bloated programs... it can be a moderate number of smaller, modularized programs started from a common init. SysVInit typically starts a bunch of shell scripts, but it could, in fact (right now) start up a handful of system daemons that handle the equivalent tasks in a more efficient manner. You could, in fact, put the two of those things together and have a really nice solution. But instead what you get is a bunch of arrogant crybabies playing politics, and a whole lot of users and sysadmins who are basically caught in the crossfire, whether they realize it or not. You can read the bug reports yourself to find real problems with systemd breaking stuff (you will find very little of that related to sysvinit, which has been very solid for decades), and it's also true that the developers do not play nice with others. Linus has ranted against the systemd folks, but only after some patience with them breaking stuff and refusing to fix it. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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