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[Discuss] ugly problem

I suspect that your freezeups may be a possible hardware issue.

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Mike Small <smallm at> wrote:

> dan moylan <jdm at> writes:
> > since yesterday i have been having irregular freezeups on my
> > computer.  for instance, today i was reading the nytimes via
> > chrome, and suddenly the mouse ceased to function, nor would
> > the touchpad on my keyboard.  the screen content remained
> > unchanged, the mouse pointer visible but stationary.
> > neither ctl-alt-del nor ctl-alt-f2 had any effect.  i
> > attempted to ssh in from another computer and got "no route
> > to host", nor could i ping.  a hard reset restores apparent
> > normalcy -- at least for a while.  times vary.  i have yet
> > to experience a freeze w/o the browser running (which of
> > course is seldom the case).
> >
> > the computer is an intel nuc-10 running fc27.
> >
> > any suggestions would be appreciated.
> What you describe sounds consistent with running low on memory and the
> system swapping a lot or downright thrashing. If you walk away and come
> back several minutes later do things come back to normal at all?  You
> might also try running top in a terminal or some other memory monitoring
> software to verify the pig process hypothesis.
> If other ideas in this thread don't work for you, chrome may have an
> extension to disable javascript selectively on parts of sites (like
> noscript in firefox can). You'll need at least some of the nytimes' own
> urls enabled for javascript so that you see a login button and pressing
> it does something, but perhaps without javascript on some of the other
> domains that load along with their pages the memory use will be small
> enough to suit your machine.
> When people criticize firefox and chrome for bloat they sometimes don't
> give proper "credit" to the authors of the websites themselves. I run
> firefox on very modest hardware (a 2 GiB RAM Core Duo based laptop made
> in 2006). When I have to use the web I prefer dillo where possible, but
> sadly, unlike the Guardian, NYTimes is not a site you can read with
> dillo. Their web developers seem not as skilled as their reporters. I
> manage to at least keep up with Paul Krugman's column using Firefox,
> though. I can only explain the lack of problems I have by my use of
> Firefox extensions like noscript, privacy badger, and uBlock
> Origin. Well, perhaps using twm as my Window manager doesn't hurt
> either, but my guess is that noscript is helping me more than that. With
> javascript enabled there is no limit to what sites can throw at your
> machine (particularly if you aren't up to date with meltdown and spectre
> mitigations ;)).
> --
> Mike Small
> smallm at
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