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[Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?
- Subject: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?
- From: markw at mohawksoft.com (markw at mohawksoft.com)
- Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 11:29:24 -0400
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You can't make a general argument about a specific example. I have an 8 core AMD FX with 16G ram. It isn't running ZFS, but it is running an MD RAID5 with 5 4T SCI disks. I'm running 5 VMs on it: a database VM, a mail server, a web server, a webproxy/firewall, and a dev server. The machine is down in the basement in a rack. I have a RP4 running PiKVM in case I need to do something to the host, I generally don't have to because all access to the VMs is either through SSH or if there is system issue, the console over virt-manager. Its not redundant, but it is old and cheap, and I back it up frequently. The system itself is not exposed to the internet, but the VM's themselves are exposed through a Macvtap bridge. If I wanted to make a redundent version of it, I'd get another system, replicate the VM storage and setup DRBD between the luns and use KVM/corosync or something to detect failure (or just do manual fail-over) The problem of redundancy is kind of a non-sequiteur for a discussion of VMs. Anything you can do with hardware you can do with a VM, I don't understand why you think it introduces any new difficulty to the problem. The VM makes a server just another application. > On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 10:06:03 -0400 > markw at mohawksoft.com wrote: > >> High availability is a fairly specialized deployment and that is >> accomplished with many different strategies. KVM has provisions for >> redundant high availability. You can create two servers that have >> access to the same LUNs (or us something like drbd) > > But as I said: you can't do this with a single VM host. > > When you start expanding your virtualization infrastructure you can > rack up some very high initial costs. Let's say for example you have an > old machine with 4 cores and 8GB RAM which I think is reasonable given > your previous suggestion. And lets say you want 4 VMs with 2 cores and > 2GB each (equivalent to a smallish Pi4). Well, you can't fit them all > on just that one host so you need two hosts. But you still don't have > HA because if one VM server fails, or is restarted for routine > maintenance, you don't have enough capacity for all of your VMs so you > really need at least three VM servers to provide sufficient capacity > and fault tolerance. > > Maybe these costs are worth it (as they certainly are for my employer) > but for a private network? A Pi cluster may be a better and more cost > effective solution than virtualization. And the Pi cluster is probably > the more fun project. > > YMMV. > > -- > \m/ (--) \m/ > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss at lists.blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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